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 Post subject: Dust
Unread postPosted: Mar 2nd, '15, 19:37 
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Had some issues with my pc , lost of freezes randomly.

So i took all the stuff out cleaned it and putted on a piece of wood its all working good again.

this is what my pc looks like atm:

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and i orderded this one now with a can of compressed air to make it easier for me to clean.


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thought id share this with you guys


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is that thing at the bottom a case? :o

nice looking pc though xD

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Yeah the bottom one is a case.

Few reason for me to buy it; lot of easier acces for me to change parts,
I think it will get less dusty
easier to cleaN
and i think it looks really cool, something different that your ordenary pc case.

It should arrive tomorrow , ill post a pic when i got my parts in the case


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ok Ill look into it im looking around for parts to buy and build my next pc, although using same box

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All looks good to me, Has that power supply got a green light in it ?.

One thing some people don't know, You should never use compressed air, or Vacuum cleaners on P/C boards, to clean them, I worked in electronics for 34 years, from valves ,through transistors and then IC,s,
Compressed air produces a static charge, enough to age IC's,
they get a flash, which creates a week spot,and in time will break down ( die)
Or can even die there and then, ,
My company made IC's , P/c boards, thick film and thin film , Mostly for the military,
for about 10 years I worked on avionics for Tornado and Typhoon ( eurofighter)
And retraining was always ongoing for all staff , to keep up with the latest technology,
and this was one of the things we were taught, all our assembly and test lines, had low bar, compressed nitrogen hand blowers for each station,But in conjuction with an anti static mat, on the work surface,
The same applys to vacuum cleaners,
It’s bad to clean the inside of your computer with a vacuum cleaner because vacuuming creates a large static build up that could (and most likely will) discharge into the sensitive electronics inside your computer case.
This charge is called ESD Electo static discharge

Walking across carpet generates 35,000 volts at 10-25% humidity, down to 1,500 volts at 65-90% humidity
Walking across vinyl tile generates 12,00 volts at 10-25% humidity, down 250 volts at 65-90% humidity.
Simply shifting around in your cushioned chair generates 18,000 volts at 10-25% humidity down to 1,500 volts at 65-90% humidity.
Common computer components and the voltage they can typically withstand:

MOSFETS: 0-2000 volts
Charged Coupled Devices: 0-2000 volts
surface mount resistors: 0-2000 volts
Integrated circuits: 0-2000 volts

You do the maths !


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But compressed air is just air right? Its not that im gonna blow it at 50psi or something how should i take the dust out then.

And yeah is has a green light.

Green is suposed to low power
orange medium power
and red means its at his max power.

But i never seen it other then green:p


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Found this,Its really if you want to take the risk, we spent a fortune on anti static stuff, we learnt the hard way as, we were populating p/c boards for a company, and had quite a few failures, We were using air spray cans, and this was stopped.


You'll run the risk building up high static voltages. Blowing air can do this easily. Think of thunderstorms when a cold front slides under the warmer air pushing it high upwards: the air-against-air movement can build up millions of volts.

In the case of the compressor your "lightning strikes" will be restricted to a few cm maximum, with energies of a few mJ, but that will be enough


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But how do i clean it then?


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We used a very low pressure Nitrogen ( also ESD problem ) , at low pressure not so bad, we first flushed them in Butanone from a squeezy bottle , ( Cancer forming ) in a fume cupboard, with sable hair paint brushes, then the nitrogen was wafted over the board, another one is isopropanol ( IPA) ( toxic) . Not as good ,.
But the damage was done to our boards from cans of air,.
There are specific cleaners like Ambersil,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_nos ... eaner&rh=n%
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KKLR-200 Circuit Board Cleaner.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/KKLR-200-Circui ... B000NI2NSG

Or if you have a Maplins where you are a cheap one is,
http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-pcb-cl ... 00ml-n64an

Not cheap. and suggest you study the data sheets /Cosh files, ( safety sheets) before you buy any of this stuff, And I dont know what the propellent in the can is, may be gas ??


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Case was orderded deliverd today just finished putting it al together and redecorate my room a little bit, heres what it looks like;


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I use a tooth brush gently, and only use vacuum for the fans disconnected and for the empty box!!!

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looks interesting :O

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Yes think your going the right way Mario, A brush ( real hair, not synthetic)
and as you say disconect fans from m/board, and blow through, But resist the temptation to use a
vacuum cleaner on or near the M/board,
I use a sable hair paintbrush, ( not cheap) for the motherboard,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-Arte-Connoi ... id=1425460
And I have pal who can get me small amouts of IPA, its not sold to the public,But is similar to rubbing alchohol, found in chemists here in the UK, I use this to flush across my boards, but have become lazy now, and just brush the dust off, And Yes, I blow through the fans with air, tut tut.lol, bu don't use a vacuum cleaner.
I also wear an anti static wrist band, another must,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/mercury-710-131 ... rist+bands

That rig of yours Bumble, looks like you stole it from the film transformers, lol. it must take up a fair bit of room, and doubt you need a heater to keep warm, lol, impressive.
Whats the spec ?


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well my top card is 5 degrees cooler then my old case.

specs:

Asrock extreme 3 gen 3 motherboard
intel i7 2600 Cpu clocked at 4.2 ghz with corsair h60 watercooling kit
2x amd 7970's graphicscards
16gb of ram
3 harddrives: 1 120gb ssd ocz, 1 128gb ssd samsung and a normal hdd of 120gb
750 watt (i believe) psu
samsung dvd drive
and a fan controller


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